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Hi Lady,
This is seemingly extreme on the streets of Lebanon… Perhaps this is a part of what Syria, et al, want to change…
I also wonder, which of these two feel worse in each others presence…
Yes, it is extreme. But it is reality.
I only can feel sorry for her.
About which one of them feels worse, I can tell you what I have felt each time I have seen someone in niqab. I have felt sorry for her. The 1st time I saw one it was July in Spain. You can consider the high temperatures, every one in shorts and with little T-Shirts and all that. And then you see this woman totally trapped in that niqab, who should be sweating enormously and without feeling the breeze when it passes…
I don’t think it is a question of who feels worse. Everyone should have the option of wearing what they wish. If a woman wants to wear a niqap or a bikini – it should be up to her – not up to the government and certainly not up to someone stuck on 8th century religious teachings.
Yes, that’s also right, Mike.
The problem is the freedom to use that garment.
For me, it is also a question of not being very sure that someone can use it being entirely free. To choose that.
There are people who compare them to the nuns. The difference from my point of view, is that the nuns who wear veil, normally live outside society and certainly never use anything similar to niqab.
There is another bad thing about this: health. Women who were those garments do not have the appropriate amount of vitamin D, which can lead them to death.
Therein lies the differences. Centuries apart, yet side by side.
No freedom, no vitamin c, no breezes blowing through their hair….sigh.
The funny thing is that as a niqabi women (woman who covers her face) I can honestly say I feel very badly for people who don’t wear it.
We do get a breeze by the way and everyone is sweating we sweat no more then anyone else. And we do get the proper amount of vitamins lol I never heard of one of us dying because of a vitamin deficiency.
I dress exactly like the woman in the photo (one wearing black) and I love it.
I live in the west and I chose it for myself just like anyone else who wears it.
Don’t feel badly for us, we are liberated, happy, respected free women who love our bodies enough to know that they are not to be put on display for anyone to see them. Don’t feel bad for us, let us feel badly for you (and your women).
Of course, if you want to have a bad health that is your problem. But, if I were the Government, women wearing niqabs would be excluded from any Public Security Health program about illnesses derived by this lack of sun. It’s your decision, so you carry on with the consequences.
And I am not feeling bad for me, thank GOD (not Allah, thanks
“We do get a breeze by the way”
I do not see how is even vaguely possible. Care to offer an explanation to that statement?
“and everyone is sweating we sweat no more then anyone else’
That is utter nonsense. Being covered from head to toe especially in the color black, must be much hotter and lead to more sweating. Marium you say you enjoy wearing a hiqab, ok whatever. But I feel you are being dishonest in order to defend your odd way of life.
Those are my honest feelings. What are yours?
No one knows who you are. Feel free to open up. Do you truly feel liberated, happy, respected and free?
Salam Alikum!
wow, Sister Marium, what a nice and correct answer, many women will feel bad, and I know that its not your intention, but you said the truth, I’m very proud, of you and all the women who have chosen to wear niqab or hijab!
Massalama
Hm. To be honest, I would feel more comfortable wearing a niqaab than a bikini in the middle of a crowded street. It has a lot to do with personal preference, you know.
And yes, I have worn a niqaab before, and no, I don’t have the body type that is “better kept hidden.”
Don’t judge someone if you haven’t been in their shoes.
Oh, and by the way, the material the hijab/niqaab/abaya is made of is very light and airy. I DID wear one out in the summertime once, simply to get an idea of how it feels, and guess what? I was every bit as cool and comfortable as I would have been otherwise. And no, I’m not Muslim. I just like to see things from different points of view.
I would rather wear a niqab than a bikini any day of the week…. mostly b/c i would feel like a sex object with men glaring at me. Women are more than just their looks and what better way to put your money where your mouth is by giving strange men no choice but to listen to you with out judging your appearance. niqab and hijab have many benefits not just the one I mentioned. btw Muslims aren’t stupid I think they know how to make their clothing out of light and airy fabrics.
I feel sorry for the naked girl.
I am a professional writer and university level teacher, and I wear niqab. I ran into this post while searching for something else. Biftu puts it very well, barak Allahu feeha. Don’t be so brainwashed by the current culture of oversexualization that you mistake immodesty for liberation. Liberation is dignity, self-respect, and being known for what you contribute instead of your cup size.
Vitamin D deficiency?? Do you think Muslim women wear their hijab all the time? We have homes, gardens, yards, camping trips, women’s clubs, beaches, etc., where we get plenty of sun.
As for the heat, what is the first thing you are told to do if you are lost in the desert? Keep all your clothes on and cover your head. In fact, wearing hijab and niqab allows your natural cooling system, your sweat, to actually work. Any breeze that comes by whips up your dress and cools your entire body. This effect is not realized if you are dressed in a bikini or shorts.
The people to feel sorry for are the ones who make not their own decisions regarding how they dress, but rather go along with whatever the dominant culture encourages and thus allow themselves to be taken advantage of. “Oh – dressing to please men mean’s I am independent and free? OK, then, sell me some more skimpy designer clothes! I’ll PAY you to objectify me!! That’s how liberated I am.”
You can check out my very liberated blogs at sisteronamission.wordpress.com and prairieheartofdamascus.wordpress.com
You’re assuming I just dress as it’s fashionable or that I am with a bikini in the sun to please men. Both “assumptions” are plainly idiot. One thing is to be free and another one is to think you are free.
Oh, and by the way, you’re speaking about the need to wear niqab in the desert. Can you tell me what deserts there are in Swedish, Italian, Spanish or Mexican cities? I answer you: NONE. You were that only because imams tell you that if you don’t wear it, men are going to be sexually atracted and could rape you. That’s nonsense and it’s extremelly insulting to men who seem to be no more than beasts looking out for sex.
There are several cases of raping by MUSLIM men to non-veiled (note: not only non-Muslim women) women because they weren’t wearing hijab. As some friend told me: the rapes-because-you’re-not-veiled is the only religious argument in which the culprit is not guilty of his own crime and to prevent that the victim is blamed on it for her life and is told she should be totally dressed just in case the culprit commits the crime.
So, you’re liberated because you were niqab (only your eyes are seen by others)… Don’t make me laugh!!!
[...] Is this the real reason for defending the burqa, niqab, etc? [...]
What is so liberating about showing all of your body. Is having every Tom Dick and Harry oggling you a healthy Idea of liberation. The fact that some man will go home and masturbate after seeing your naked flesh is supposed to make you feel good.
The bottom line.
We wear niqab because the One who created everything has commanded the women who believe in Him, His Messengers and the Day of Judgement to conceal their beauty.
YES we are liberated. Liberated from the sickness that society has imposed upon women to be skinnier, more tanned et al. Liberated from enmity between women because they are jealous of her flat stomach and other such abusurdities that are rife within the non Muslim circles.
My entire body is for my husband. Liberated from the pressure of having to look good in the newest style for who…
All these people on the street. This woman in a bikini and those like her subject themselves to the pressure of having to look good for strangers. How can you possible please all those people.
We Muslim women have more valuable things to do with our time than worry about foolishness like that. We take care to make sure that our husbands, if we have them, are pleased with our physique and that’s it.
Leaving us time to cultivate our minds and cultivate the best of characters.
Keep your bikinis and your booty shorts. We love our niqabs.
FYI . As for your Death from vitamin D statment. Please post a link to the article showing that a woman wearing niqab has died from this.
Secondly, please show the study which has concluded that women in niqab have shorter lifespans than women who walk around in the streets naked.
He, you’re wrong: I surely do not wear a bikini to please others (in case I would wear it: I prefer swimming-suit), just because it’s healthy to receive the sun in your skin in a moderate fashion.
As for your Death from vitamin D statment. Please post a link to the article showing that a woman wearing niqab has died from this.
I don’t need any article: I am a woman with short vitamin D and calcium (calcium needs vitamin D to get to the bones). Guess what was the first advice my doctor gave me: sunbathe!!
women who walk around in the streets naked. I surely don’t walk around any street naked (without clothes, entirely nude). But I don’t take my bed-clothes on me when I am going out.
Keep your bikinis and your booty shorts. We love our niqabs.
You know what? That would be fabulous if you didn’t want to impose your Islamic veils on people from another religions:
http://infidelsarecool.com/2008/04/25/indonesia-sharia-law-forcing-non-muslims-to-wear-hijab/
So, if in Islamic countries non-Islamic people should wear Islamic veil, why are you allowed to wear it on Western countries? Specially considering it’s just a symbol of the consideration of men as sexual beasts who can’t help but raping unveiled women.
“Deal with my brain, not my body!”
That statement was sent to me in an email and it made me actually think about it. If you look around at society, you see people, male and female, trying to create a look that is somewhat linked to the ‘today’ look. Different countries have different looks. There’s the teens in the world dressing up to look like part of the society. It’s an unconscious process. You don’t even realise you’re being pulled into a hidden law of having to look in an acceptable way.
Along come a woman dressed from head to toe. Society thinks she’s oppressed because they believe to be free is to be able to dress in what they want. If a niqaabi decides to want to dress from head to toe, how can she be oppressed? She chose herself didn’t she? I did.
Society thinks they are free, they dress following the fashion trends, make themselves as beautified as possible. They don’t want to look ugly or different. The niqaabi wishes to look plain, so her views are taken however she looks. She wishes to preserve her beauty only for the one it is meant for, her husband. That way, she will hopefully not become attracted or be attractive.
She feels free from the nonsense of having to look good. Feels free from people looking and judging from appearances. Now they can either see her as a stranger and get to know her ideas rather than her looks, or feel sorry for her.. But she, ahhh, she feels free and peaceful, safe from the indignity of being seen as an object, someone with self-respect. Someone modest.
If you look around at society, you see people, male and female, trying to create a look that is somewhat linked to the ‘today’ look.
That is what you think about it. I just don’t dress for the “today” look, I wear what I like. I really don’t like fashion.
Someone modest.
So to be modest, do you really want me to believe that you have to be dressed with a black sheet all over you? Come on, that’s not true!!
She wishes to preserve her beauty only for the one it is meant for, her husband.
If God would have made us to be covered, he would have designed us to be covered. Niqab and other Islamic robes were designed to be worn in the desert, where very high temperatures by day, very low temperatures by night and above all, desert storms, made it necessary. That about “only be seen by the husband” is nonsense, because then, why is the husband not covered? His beauty was not designed to be seen only by his wife/s???
That way, she will hopefully not become attracted or be attractive.
So then, the husband can attract other women?? He is not covered… but they can see him
Man.. You crushed me. Well, what I wrote anyway.
I knew the moment I clicked submit that it wasn’t a good literature, but hey, I tried. I’m not good at these things.
I guess, to wholly understand niqaab, you have to climb that ladder of faith. Yes, it’s not a good answer to this and it’s a bit of an annoying thing to say, I know. I heard it many times before I actually understood it. It’s just what each individual experiences. I don’t think I can ever tell someone why I wear niqaab but if you hung around a true niqaabi for a while, you’d start understanding. Obviously, if you get influenced easily then that wouldn’t be the real answer, but otherwise, overtime, you’d understand.
Understanding another person’s feelings is never easy..
As to your comments crushing mine, the answers are all answered in Islam, but it would be very time consuming for me to write up since I’m not very good at it.
I’d just like to add, why do you think me, and other fellow niqaabi’s, would choose to wear something like this? No, we’re not oppressed, and no, we have no psychological problems. Doesn’t that give you a little inkling that we might have a real motive?
http://haqaonline.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=8664